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organize:talkingpoints [2014/01/06 21:09] – [Nothing to hide] added spaces 127.0.0.1organize:talkingpoints [2014/01/07 18:14] nivatius42
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 =====Nothing to hide ===== =====Nothing to hide =====
->**logical fallacies**: good people have nothing to fearI don't need privacyonly bad people hide thingsI don't need to encrypt \\+**logical fallacies**: 
 +good people have nothing to fear 
 +I don't need privacy 
 +only bad people hide things 
 +I don't need to encrypt \\
  
 ====Argumentations==== ====Argumentations====
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 **Accusation**: privacy and crypto enable child abuse \\  **Accusation**: privacy and crypto enable child abuse \\ 
 **logical fallacy**: surveillance stops child abuse \\  **logical fallacy**: surveillance stops child abuse \\ 
-**truth**: police needs tools like Tor to find people that spread images of child abuse.+**truth**: Police needs tools like Tor to find people that spread images of child abuse.
  
 ==== crime in general ==== ==== crime in general ====
-Accusation: privacy,  and crypto enable crimes +**Accusation**: privacy,  and crypto enable crimes 
-logical fallacy: surveillance stops crimes and helps to find criminalsif we just had enough surveillance there would be no crime+**logical fallacies**: 
 +>surveillance stops crimes and helps to find criminals 
 +if we just had enough surveillance there would be no crime
  
 ====== files,facts and data ===== ====== files,facts and data =====
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 constitions: of europe, America constitions: of europe, America
  
-please add links to material like studies that show that data-retention is useless, the cost of surveillance, examples of innocent beeing spyed on ect.+please add links to material like studies that show that data-retention is useless, the cost of surveillance, examples of innocent beeing spyed on etc.
   * [[http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/%C3%9Cbersetzung/English/Pros_and_cons|arguments against dataretention]]   * [[http://wiki.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/%C3%9Cbersetzung/English/Pros_and_cons|arguments against dataretention]]
 ===== victims of surveillance ===== ===== victims of surveillance =====