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| ======= general concerns ====== | ======= general concerns ====== | ||
| - | The most common arguments against privacy and the use of good crypto are often called the " | + | The most common arguments against privacy and the use of good crypto are often called the " |
| - | Because the are not rational arguments | + | |
| =====Nothing to hide ===== | =====Nothing to hide ===== | ||
| - | >**logical fallacies**: | + | **logical fallacies**: |
| - | We need to understand that this statement is caused by the propaganda logic of "only bad people hide things" | + | > good people have nothing to fear |
| + | > I don't need privacy | ||
| + | > only bad people hide things | ||
| + | > I don't need to encrypt \\ | ||
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| + | ====Argumentations==== | ||
| + | there are several lines of argument that are already used successfully | ||
| + | ===Win by yielding=== | ||
| + | We need to understand that this statement is caused by the propaganda logic of "only bad people hide things" | ||
| We don't need people to believe that they are bad people, we don't need them to believe they need to live in fear. We need people to believe that privacy is good and that they can do something . | We don't need people to believe that they are bad people, we don't need them to believe they need to live in fear. We need people to believe that privacy is good and that they can do something . | ||
| - | | + | |
| + | - show examples of innocent victims of surveillance, | ||
| + | - give examples of legitimate need for privacy: doctors, | ||
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| + | > //"I have nothing to hide"// | ||
| + | >No doubt, you are a good person. And you probably think that means surveillance does not affect you, because it only goes after bad guys\\ | ||
| + | >//allow time for the person to comment// \\ | ||
| + | > The thing is, that is not true.It affects all of us. People make mistakes, and so does the state. For example...// | ||
| + | ===it' | ||
| + | > | ||
| + | >that I have nothing to hide | ||
| + | >it might be true that I may not be ill | ||
| + | >it may be true that II am NOT blind | ||
| + | >I still want to live in a world that has hospitals I still want to live on | ||
| + | >Street which has accessibility for blind people | ||
| + | >it is also the case that I want to have a world where everyone has privacy | ||
| + | >and thus dignity confidentiality and integrity in their daily lives without having to ask for it | ||
| + | >to beg it from a master because it is the case that when you ask someone for those things | ||
| + | >they may not grant them and then you will know you are not free | ||
| + | >so what can people do first they can declare themselves to be free | ||
| + | - Jacob Applebaum [[https:// | ||
| =====Terror ==== | =====Terror ==== | ||
| **Accusation**: | **Accusation**: | ||
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| =====Child abuse ===== | =====Child abuse ===== | ||
| - | Accusation: privacy and crypto enable child abuse | + | **Accusation**: privacy and crypto enable child abuse \\ |
| - | logical fallacy: surveillance stops child abuse | + | **logical fallacy**: surveillance stops child abuse \\ |
| - | truth: | + | **truth**: abuse of children or other people |
| ==== crime in general ==== | ==== crime in general ==== | ||
| - | Accusation: privacy, | + | **Accusation**: privacy, |
| - | logical | + | **logical |
| + | >surveillance stops crimes and helps to find criminals | ||
| + | > if we just had enough surveillance | ||
| ====== files,facts and data ===== | ====== files,facts and data ===== | ||
| + | ==== resources ==== | ||
| declaration of human rights | declaration of human rights | ||
| constitions: | constitions: | ||
| - | please add links to material like studies that show that data-retention is useless, the cost of surveillance, | + | please add links to material like studies that show that data-retention is useless, the cost of surveillance, |
| + | * [[http:// | ||
| + | ===== victims of surveillance ===== | ||
| + | | ||
| + | * James Robinson - " | ||
| + | | ||
| + | * Leigh Van Bryan - " | ||
| + | * Johannes Schneiderhäuser - " | ||
| + | * Abdulrahman al-Awlaki- " | ||
| ======= dirty tricks ====== | ======= dirty tricks ====== | ||
| Be prepared for dirty tricks by the dark side of the force. Lying, logical fallacies and propaganda are common tools of opponents of humanrights | Be prepared for dirty tricks by the dark side of the force. Lying, logical fallacies and propaganda are common tools of opponents of humanrights | ||